Michael D.Heath-Caldwell M.Arch.

Palmer Timeline

---------------------Alexander, Edwin, Violet etc

Joseph Mansergh Palmer - Georgina Hartford

Thomas Palmer of Durrow = Ellis - .    Thomas born 2 Dec 1823 at “Brooklawn”Ireland. Occupation draper Married Charlotte Ellis 1849 had 9 children eldest Joseph Mansergh.

Joseph L Palmer = Wilson - Joseph L born 1799 Occupation Gentleman/Landed proprietor of independent means. Married Sarah Wilson 1808. Sarah’s grandmother was Mademoiselle De Capo, daughter of a distinguished French family and said to be a great beauty. She married into the Montgomery family which at that time was possessed of immense wealth, but lost all in the French Revolution. Joseph and Sarah had 20 children. The second born and eldest son was Thomas Montgomery.

Thomas St Palmer = Lodge - Thomas St born about 1760 Derreen. Occupation Gentleman or referenced as being of the Landed Gentry. Married Mary Anne Lodge about 1787. Thomas St and Mary Anne were cousins being both children of the two Lodge sisters Frances and Elizabeth. This made the sisters mothers-in-law to each other’s child, to whom they were already aunts. It is believed that they had 21 children including Joseph Lodge.


Paul Palmer = F. Lodge - .     Paul born about 1730. Died Derreen 1794. Occupation Gentleman. Married 12 May 1754 to Frances Lodge. The history of the Lodge and Palmer families are linked from brothers of both families arriving in Ireland with the Cromwell army in 1649. Lodge ancestor Sir Thomas Lodge was made Lord Mayor of London in 1562. Paul and Frances third son was Thomas St

Thomas Palmer = Eleanor Fletcher - Thomas born about 1705 Ireland. Died 1771 Ireland. Known as Thomas Palmer of Ballyguage. Married about 1729 to Eleanor Fletcher who brings a long line of ancestry to the family.They had 8 children, the eldest was Paul

William Fletcher

William Fletcher (9) (both of these were officers in the army of William III

Henry Fletcher (2nd Son)Miss Hay - Sir Andrew Fletcher, Lord Innesfieffat -= Lord of Session - Fletchers of Salton

Peter Hay

Peter Hay = Margaret, daughter of Sir Patrick Ogilvie 

John Crichton = Janet Fraser

Thomas, Lord Lovatt = Janet Gray

Andrew,3rd Lord Gray = Elizabeth Stewart

split between 2 royal house lines here

John, Earl of Atholl = Eleanor SInclair, daughter of Earl of Orkney

James 1 of Scotland = Joan Beaufort  = Sir James Stewart (Black Knight of Lorn)

Earl of Somerset = Margaret (daughter of Thomas de Holand and Alice Fitzalan

John of Gaunt

Edward III

Edward II

Eleanor of Castile = Edward I = Margaret 

Henry III

John

Henry II

Matilda

Henry I = Matilda (sister of David I )

Malcolm Canmore = Margaret 

Edward

Edmund Ironside

Ethelred II

Edgar

Edmund

Edward the Elder

Alfred the Great - 848/9 - 899AD

Ethelwulf = 1sr Osburgh: - 2nd wife Judith

Charles le ChauveLouis le Debonnaire

Charlmagne - 748 - 814AD

Pepin the Short = Bertrada of Laon

Charles Martel  688 - 741AD = Rotrude

Pepin of Herstal (c635 - 714AD) = Alpaida

Ansigesel - (c602 - murdered c662/679)

Saind Arnulf, Bishop of Metz (c582-645AD) - of Frankish ancestry, sufficiently elevated and noble parentage and very rich in worldly goods = Doda 

Bodegisel - a Frankish noble. 

--------------------------------------------------------Sir Peter Hay = Margaret Crichton (Sir Peter Hay, Earl of Erroll)

Thomas Stephen Palmer 1760-18xx of Derreen married Mary Anne Lodge, daughter of George and Elizabeth Lodge of Graigavoice, 
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Paul Palmer c 1730 m 1754, Frances Lodge , daughter of Jeremiah Lodge and Elizabeth Elliott of Durreen, lived at Ballygauge, Queen's County, Ireland 
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Thomas Palmer c 1705 - 1771 - Owned land at Ballygauge, Queen's County, Ireland. Married c 1729 to  = Eleanor Fletcher, daughter of William Fletcher
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Joseph Palmer c 1680 - 26th March 1741, of Queen's County, Ireland - Mary Abbott
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William Palmer c 1655 - married Miss Paul (Daughter of Sir Joshua Paul of Paulsworth, Durham (13) Temp 1649 - One of the (Tretour?) Staff Officers
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Joseph Palmer, soldier with Cromwell. Peer of Ireland, 1745. Family may have come from Kent 1593

John Cricton = Janet Fraser - John Crichton of Ruthven
Thomas Landlourt = Janet Gray
Andrew, 3rd Lord -- = Elizabeth Stewart John - Earl of Atholl, 3rd son of James II = Eleanor Sinclair, daughter of Earl of Orkney